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The Arrangement for the Interviewer side

In the case of job application, I perceive the ideal form of the interviewer side to comprise both HR and the immediate supervisor of the vacancy. Both could have an interest in promoting the organisation’s well-being by attending to the shortfall in the workforce, but inherently a conflict of interest tears them apart. By putting them together in the same interview, it is more likely a balance of interest can be reached in the selection process.

Left alone to HR, they would employ the best talent that fits into the company, but may not work well with the supervisor. Left alone to the supervisor, he may opt for the second or third best that fits into HIM – one that is no brighter than him and thus less threatening to him – at the expense of the organisation.

……………………………………………………

My reply to Steve:

Steve, what I set out here are general statements. Of course we still allow for the emergence of special circumstances. But in making a general rule, as in the case of a conservative budgetary forecast or economic policy and legislation making, it is a matter of prudence to take the assumption of a reasonably pessimistic view, so that if situation gets better, it is automatically taken care of, thus sparing the complication of a policy response or review. This is more commonly known as "err on the cautious side".

In the case here, if we have a competent HR (which is assumed to be impartial anyway, as they hire on behalf of the organisation) and a self-interested supervisor, then there exists a conflict of interest as stated, and I propose to put them together. On the other extreme, if we have a competent HR and a selfless Level 5 supervisor, then their interests just converge to the company’s interest - it makes no difference to have either HR or the supervisor, or both.

I acknowledge the top management of a great company has to be Level 5 leaders, who adore talents, to sustain its greatness. But it appears too optimistic to me to assume a similar case for its subsequent levels of supervisors. The companies thus are better off to prepare themselves with a counter, in case the conflict of interest happens at all.

My point is, in general the interviewers should consist of both HR and the immediate supervisor.

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4,004 Responses to “The Arrangement for the Interviewer side”

  1. Isabella Says:
    June 7th, 2006 at 3:20 am

    I have read the article ‘The Arrangement for the Interveiwer side’ I totally agree with what the content stated

  2. Lola Says:
    June 7th, 2006 at 6:39 am

    Not totally agree. sometimes althougt the boss think that u r smart enough to beat him, he still got more experienced and already in the company for longer period.
    it should give him a comfort zone.

  3. John Danny Says:
    June 7th, 2006 at 8:23 am

    OO! Tama ka jan!

  4. John Danny Says:
    June 7th, 2006 at 8:25 am

    Oops! English only.

    I totally agree with what you said.

  5. jerson Says:
    June 7th, 2006 at 8:48 pm

    i think you have a good point…sometimes interviewer is intimidated by the applicant…that results to the applicant not being hired even if he/she is qualified.

  6. Chad Says:
    June 7th, 2006 at 9:16 pm

    very true. I have a friend who did just that - she hired someone she knows would never have the guts to chase her up the corporate ladder…crazy!

  7. Andy Says:
    June 7th, 2006 at 9:22 pm

    luv u

  8. jean-Piamonte Says:
    June 8th, 2006 at 1:58 am

    hoisttt mga sister….how r u?/

  9. Yi Zheng Says:
    June 8th, 2006 at 6:22 am

    wooo Chad, that’s eye-opening.. I had never thought about this issue from the standpoint of an interviewer if not for the series of interviews I went through recently..

    Lola, if I were the interviewer, I wouldn’t judge a candidate by what he currently has, but by his potential. I believe this is the approach of other interviewers too.

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    June 8th, 2006 at 7:34 am

    what’s that all about…?! good gramar, bad topic, good mind…

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  11. j o A n Says:
    June 8th, 2006 at 8:56 pm

    hmm i dnt think so… i was personally interviewed by the supervisor and i think he choses the best that fits the company and not in the expense of the organizatuion.. hehehe he hired me by the way.

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  12. Steve Says:
    June 8th, 2006 at 10:24 pm

    xiaoluo, i’m not too sure about what you wrote here. it looks like an unfair sweeping statement to me.

    only undeserving employers would fear their subordinates being brighter than the employers themselves. and that draws the line between a good company and a great company.

    a truely capable and wise employer would hire the RIGHT and BEST person for the job. the gap between the capability of him/herself and of the interviewee should have no relevance to the employment decision.

    borrowing the words from Good to Great by Jim Colins, the former would adopt the model of “a genius with a thousand helpers” and the latter chooses the model of “a Level 5 Leader+management team”. Google “Level 5 Leader” for more details.

    my point is if you have been feeling unfairly treated by the employers, those are probably unworthy ones. job hunting is painful and frustrating most of the time. lest you are desperate for money to feed yourself, you’d not be interested in becoming one of the many helpers of a “genius”, would you?

    you are an unpolised diamond. hang in there and keep a lookout for a Level 5 Leader! sooner or later, great opportunities will be coming your way.

  13. cherrie mae Says:
    June 9th, 2006 at 5:56 am

    yeh, i agree… but in fairness i still believe that their are still supervisors who mean us well.

  14. JOEY Says:
    June 10th, 2006 at 12:39 am

    I DONT HAVE COMMENTS

  15. JOEY Says:
    June 10th, 2006 at 12:40 am

    CAN U BE MY FRIEND?

  16. Yi Zheng Says:
    June 10th, 2006 at 3:47 am

    Steve, what I set out here are general statements. Of course we still allow for the emergence of special circumstances. But in making a general rule, as in the case of a conservative budgetary forecast or economic policy and legislation making, it is a matter of prudence to take the assumption of a reasonably pessimistic view, so that if situation gets better, it is automatically taken care of, thus sparing the complication of a policy response or review. This is more commonly known as “err on the cautious side”.

    In the case here, if we have a competent HR (which is assumed to be impartial anyway, as they hire on behalf of the organisation) and a self-interested supervisor, then there exists a conflict of interest as stated, and I propose to put them together. On the other extreme, if we have a competent HR and a selfless Level 5 supervisor, then their interests just converge to the company’s interest - it makes no difference to have either HR or the supervisor, or both.

    I acknowledge the top management of a great company has to be Level 5 leaders, who adore talents, to sustain its greatness. But it appears too optimistic to me to assume a similar case for its subsequent levels of supervisors. The companies thus are better off to prepare themselves with a counter, in case the conflict of interest happens at all.

    My point is, in general the interviewers should consist of both HR and the immediate supervisor.

  17. riversandlakes Says:
    June 10th, 2006 at 5:35 am

    Both HR and the supervisor in the interview session? I’m all for you!

    Will HR by itself hire the best? I beg to differ. I’ve seen HR functioning by merely screening the first page of CVs - before they go unfiled into the wastebasket.

    I believe this is how it’s supposed to work, for the best - IBM’s filtering goes through first a reputable agency, then the supervisor him/herself and finally HR makes the offer.

  18. pai-production Says:
    June 10th, 2006 at 9:35 am

    are U a pianis???

  19. jen II Says:
    June 10th, 2006 at 11:11 pm

    i didnt read ur stuff or anything but i lyk da picture.;)

  20. felicidad Says:
    June 11th, 2006 at 12:02 am

    it’s not easily find true love

  21. SpOiLeD aPpLe Says:
    June 11th, 2006 at 12:04 am

    no comments

  22. Ces Says:
    June 11th, 2006 at 5:07 am

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  23. Steve Says:
    June 11th, 2006 at 4:40 pm

    heh… gotta admit that i jumped into conclusion too soon, presuming that your recent frustrating experience with the interviews inspired this blog entry. you have a good point here. the participation of both HR and direct supervisor in an interview would ensure a balance of interests of both the company and the supervisor.

    though my personal preference is to have a supervisor who has both the HR and his own interest at heart during an interview. else, i don’t foresee how value-adding that future experience can be working under the same supervisor.

    certainly the real world often does not work in the way we like. your idea definitely helps eliminate individual biases in the general hiring process.

  24. jyu ri Says:
    June 11th, 2006 at 8:02 pm

    the real thing is how you perceived the situation, most of us try to confine ourselves by being idealistic, but you have to learn and set yourself in the REALITY that there will or may have always biases based on their individual interests in the hiring process. Just be emotionaly and mentally prepared and expect nothing.

  25. Jefferey Says:
    June 12th, 2006 at 2:16 am

    i agree with you pal.
    thats the reality… and
    addition to that it involves
    some political aspects.

  26. diar aja Says:
    June 12th, 2006 at 8:10 pm

    let me say….that’s good point….n i agree with u.

  27. Februwaty Says:
    June 12th, 2006 at 10:26 pm

    hi, may i ask u
    do u work as HRD??

  28. kenjie Says:
    June 13th, 2006 at 5:27 am

    hi your such an ?
    i dont like you!!!!!!!!

  29. kenjie Says:
    June 13th, 2006 at 5:28 am

    who do you think you are?

  30. AMiR D.a. Says:
    June 13th, 2006 at 8:59 am

    Nice

  31. ghie Says:
    June 13th, 2006 at 5:20 pm

    Thats right….. you have point.

  32. ANNALLETE Says:
    June 13th, 2006 at 7:11 pm

    thats really correct

  33. RoNnEL JgGxZz Says:
    June 14th, 2006 at 5:35 am

    Nice thought, however HR practitioners should be reminded that their role is merely facilitator in te organization. It is the role of departmental managers first and foremost to decide who to hire for the company, because the person eventually will work for him or her.

    That is why, HR practitioners are encouraged to observed competency based interviewing and selection than merely observation and interpretation of the candidates actions/gestures during interviews. The difficulty of the cadidate to pronounce “p” and “f” has nothing to do about determining the persons ability to deliver results, lets say if the person is applying for an accounting position - this one will matter if the person is applying for the a customer representative post. Thus it is advised that, HR should focused more on the competencies or the ability of the person to do the task (accounting backgrpound) than the personality of the person. And HR can only give opinions about the candidate when asked by departmental managers of his opinion.

    Many thanks!

  34. Fallen Says:
    June 14th, 2006 at 6:42 am

    HR are puppets in an organisation. It is a waste of time having them present in an interview.

  35. Honghui Says:
    June 14th, 2006 at 6:59 am

    “That is why, HR practitioners are encouraged to observed competency based interviewing and selection than merely observation and interpretation of the candidates actions/gestures during interviews. ”

    That is the impartiality the HR person brings to the interviewing table. They assess the individual’s general fit into the organization, be it personality fit, or competency fit.

    The departmental manager will likely be looking into technical competencies, or how well they get along, but moving this candidate forward in the organization requires more than just short-term thinking.

    The HR manager can help the departmental officer look beyond “hiring for the headcount” and deploy the candidate strategically through his career progression in the firm.

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  39. Mabelle Joy Says:
    June 15th, 2006 at 9:18 pm

    That is one of the big problem here in d Philippines…that is why we don’t progress..so don’t be like dat..it is very inhuman for me!!!

  40. jovelyn Says:
    June 17th, 2006 at 12:06 am

    u hav a point……..
    gud job mem!!!!!!!!

  41. gladys ann Says:
    June 17th, 2006 at 2:11 am

    i think ur a gud observant

  42. Welsifrida Says:
    June 18th, 2006 at 4:48 am

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  43. aLLeRa Says:
    June 19th, 2006 at 8:26 am

    i really isnt certain if you will laid eyes on this one– yes sometimes the stuff you believe is believable.. in some ways there is a point os what yu said and I 75% agree to it. but the remaining, Im in doubt.

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  46. cherra Says:
    June 20th, 2006 at 3:26 am

    whoah!!!im impressed with your arguments.BRAVO GUYS!!!I just hope i wont experience this kind of thing in the future when i will be applying for a job.FOR THOSE WHO already EXPERIENCED IT ,dont despair for there are thousands of job opportuinities out there just waiting for you to discover.remember that the more you dwell on depression,the lesser chance you have in finding a job.think positive!God bless everyone.

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    June 21st, 2006 at 3:06 am

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    June 21st, 2006 at 9:25 am

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    June 21st, 2006 at 9:27 am

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  50. mikelgen Says:
    June 23rd, 2006 at 3:36 am

    hey!!! i think you really do know the HR process in hiring an applicant… They are biases creep of people trying to be nice but they aren’t… they think their good to choose the beset just to observe the persons gestures and character… I think they also must focus on the capability of the person if he/she has what their looking for. Its not about you like her/him its more on the abilities…thats all!!!
    nice topic…

  51. Wuo Jian Says:
    June 23rd, 2006 at 8:07 pm

    That’s cool! i worked for an HR firm. It’s true….

  52. life Says:
    June 24th, 2006 at 8:38 pm

    thank. umm i guess it is hard to achieve what you really luv to do. jobs are a compulsory thing… wit the edu for the back ground.but hey look at the bright side life is meant to be tought if you want it to be but life can be too ‘easy’ if oyu created it

  53. jennifer Says:
    June 24th, 2006 at 9:46 pm

    my comments is,if you are the supervisor or the hr what you have to consider in hiring an applicant is,he is the individual is capable enough to his job for the company’s sake…

  54. Arock Says:
    June 25th, 2006 at 10:07 am

    so far so good!!!

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    June 26th, 2006 at 10:28 pm

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  56. ernest Says:
    June 27th, 2006 at 6:26 am

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    June 27th, 2006 at 5:57 pm

    hello…just wanna make friends,,…. f it is ok

  58. Raul Says:
    June 27th, 2006 at 11:38 pm

    The presence of HR during interview(panel) is to asses the personality of the applicant and the Dept Head for the skills but in reality politics or nepotism is the one who often prevails. Trust Me!

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    June 28th, 2006 at 2:05 am

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  60. varhan Says:
    June 28th, 2006 at 12:05 pm

    good point, but not totally agree. in an interview i think it’s not always how the way to make the boss impress with our experiences but how the way to make him/her comfort with us. still many factor pal.. sometimes the boss doesn’t need a smart person but the people who can work together with them. they can feel it sometimes, that’s why most of hr must have physycology basic. about skills it can build later. well it’s just my opinion anyway.. keep on spirit pal

  61. Raul Says:
    June 28th, 2006 at 10:51 pm

    In big companies what uv said is entirely the opposite. If ur really good u hav to impress the interviewee and building the skills at a later time is a big no no to them. They can not sacrifice much time for u to develop ur skills because their main concern will be ur productivity that will help them to their immediate needs.

  62. rabbit Says:
    June 29th, 2006 at 7:39 am

    its about who’s behind the wheel.

    the quality of applicant? it matters.

    the kind of Company? big deal.

    . and the boss? mostly… they sucks!

    but that’s the human drama.

    striving not to be left-of from this rat-race.

    that’s reality.

  63. mysterious Says:
    June 29th, 2006 at 7:57 pm

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  64. mysterious Says:
    June 29th, 2006 at 8:01 pm

    besides we do have rational thinking( right ) if we interviewd then do the right thing answer then impress the interviewee thats easy to be employed,, if u wer not employed then sori its not a job for you…..luv ys guys….hucker262004…..mysterious here

  65. felissa lew Says:
    June 30th, 2006 at 10:33 pm

    holiday so boring..

  66. christine Says:
    July 1st, 2006 at 1:10 am

    hmmmm… that’s true but it doesn’t hold true at all times.

  67. christine Says:
    July 1st, 2006 at 1:14 am

    that’s when the survival of the fittest and the elimination of the unfit enters.if the interviewer thinks you’re too good to outsmart him in the long run, and probabably divest him if everything he has now in his position- YOU’RE A TERRIBLE THREAT TO HIM! He wont hire you, no matter how good you are. POOR YOU!! BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME! (check my blog)

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    July 3rd, 2006 at 12:36 am

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    July 3rd, 2006 at 12:39 am

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    July 3rd, 2006 at 3:49 am

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  71. Rolf Says:
    July 4th, 2006 at 7:27 pm

    this is so true…..

  72. Rolly Says:
    July 5th, 2006 at 3:26 am

    yes that is true……

  73. Mick Says:
    July 5th, 2006 at 10:05 pm

    Why? you guys no confident in yourself in getting a job, so blaming yourself for being too good for the organization ah?

    being good academically is one thing, being an intellect in your field is another, but EQ and PR skills is not something thought in school. We look for people who can really ‘click’ with our business partners, without being a showoff, and creating any bad impression…. and not a walking dictionary who boasts about how better you are at your job than your manager that you will be doomed because of your manager’s selfish thinking. Having confidence in yourself is good, over confidence by 0.01% is already a failure in brewing.

    perm. automotive industry. be prepare to fold your sleeves and get your hands dirty walking around oily places.
    part timers during term break also needed for other depts.

    engineering or business field, fresh diploma or degree “also can” as long as you have the right attitute towards people and career. tough, able to endure ‘challanges’ ‘advices’ and ’self-induced demotivation’very necessary.
    piano playing and distinctions in paper examinations not an advantage.

    i’ve got a few vacancies to fill, i hope to get really good candidates to train to replace me, so that i can be relieved of my current duties and be assigned for higher responsibilities in FY 08. Interested? leave me message.
    I’ll reply with our, HR’s and agency’s contact for proper processes.

  74. Yi Zheng Says:
    July 6th, 2006 at 7:29 am

    Mick, I think you have a greater chance of promotion if you can refrain yourself from your haste in voicing out baseless assumptions, let alone in a sarcastic way. These are exactly the EQ and PR skills that you are well aware of but lack in. Good luck.

  75. myra Says:
    July 8th, 2006 at 11:31 pm

    no comment… hi there!!!

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    July 10th, 2006 at 7:55 pm

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  77. Steve Says:
    July 10th, 2006 at 9:20 pm

    good call Yi Zheng. Mick don’t embarrass yourself trying to state the obvious and to show off how highflying you are.

    from what you wrote, it’s amazing that, being so ignorant and disrecpectful, you’ve managed to climb the corporate ladder thus far and not still falling. please read the original blog entry carefully before you leave your comment here. have respect for yourself and most importantly for the owner. do not hijack the owner’s topic of discussion here.

  78. Fallen Says:
    July 10th, 2006 at 11:28 pm

    SPAM! ^_^

  79. Margie Says:
    July 11th, 2006 at 12:35 am

    life is full of surprises just like me,but then what ever it is i always see to it that i can handle all the way i handle my self.just sit and relax OK!? cool kalang baby………!!!!!!!!

  80. jessie Says:
    July 11th, 2006 at 2:45 am

    surprise me nga!

  81. jessie Says:
    July 11th, 2006 at 2:53 am

    you all have the point! its a matter of who the employers are really looking for. for you all out there looking for the job, a very big good luck to all of you and to all the employers looking for the best employees for your companies, look for the best who will fit for the job and not look for job that will fit to your relatives and friends. Give every applicant a chance to show what they can show. yun lang po. thanks

  82. shang Says:
    July 11th, 2006 at 11:07 pm

    Nice…you have a point.anyway,are you a pianist?

  83. moNICa Says:
    July 12th, 2006 at 6:08 pm

    Of course it’s better to have an interview with both HR and immediate supervisor. But the final decision sometimes made not by always looking to the quality/competency of the interviewee, but the remuneration requested by the interviewee. Cruel? Well it does exist…believe me. Some companies want a competent employee with a the lowest remuneration they can give. At the end it caused a high turnover of employment in that company and many other things also being affected. So, in my opinion, what you wrote is true, but in reality, decision is being made based on what is the important factor to the company…is it the remuneration or the competency of its person???

  84. guang zou Says:
    July 12th, 2006 at 10:07 pm

    great ideas;)!

  85. Juancho Says:
    July 12th, 2006 at 11:42 pm

    what an eye opener, hope to have more from you man… Any way that is a sad reality on job application and susceptibility to frustation can be enlightening experience as well.

  86. loida Says:
    July 17th, 2006 at 1:14 am

    well i just read your blog today.well your quite correct but still it is the management who has the right to select the best applicant that they have,right?

  87. erotica Says:
    July 20th, 2006 at 5:08 am

    Showing our talent is more important. Both HR and supervisor will be only looking for fulled creterion that can satisfaction them during the interviewer starts. By revealed talents and give our concentration to them, competative will be not reservation as well

  88. isa Says:
    July 21st, 2006 at 6:39 am

    keep going…
    god bless you…

  89. Charlon Says:
    July 22nd, 2006 at 4:21 pm

    What can you say about an HR interviewing someone and failed her just because of one reason, which the HR told the employer…. “When I am talking to her I saw that she sit with her legs crossed!” Duh!!! What’s the matter with crossing your legs while you are on an interview??? What is the sense of someone bringing his resume? hahaha! Watch out job hunters never cross a leg when infront of this interviewer… specially ladies…

  90. Glenn Says:
    July 22nd, 2006 at 9:00 pm

    that’s very interesting to to know!

  91. Glenn Says:
    July 22nd, 2006 at 9:02 pm

    that’s very interesting to know!

  92. anne Says:
    July 24th, 2006 at 10:56 pm

    hi…

  93. jack Says:
    July 26th, 2006 at 12:29 am

    This comment is for Steve’s “a truely capable and wise employer would hire the RIGHT and BEST person for the job” and I tend to disagree. I would like to be a truely capable and wise employer but I would not hire the BEST person, only the RIGHT one. In my experience, my boss hired a person that he often refer to as the BEST of that season. But problem arose when the BEST word came in and the kid just shut down. The reason, he knows he is the BEST. With all the evidence of his scholastic standing and performance in the working area, truly he is, however, it seems that BEST people do not seek help on the area from which he knew he is best. Thus, when he think that he has given everything and no good results, he hits rock bottom very hard. Normally, the RIGHT one would seek conversations regarding his problem because he knew that the BEST solution is out there. The BEST one does not because he believes it is in him.

    Thus, if I were to hire someone without the HR beside me, I will be more comfortable in hiring the second or third best. It will leave me a margin of communication, growth and better relationship with my colleagues.

    As per your discussion, I would like my colleagues to be sorted and filtered by the HR first, not together. In my opinion, social, emotional and other aspects of a person should be of RIGHT balance before they undergo technical work. As a group leader in an engineering firm, I only have the HR to check this for me and the rest are, I can say, mechanical. Give Caesar what is for Caesar and give the supervisor what should be his.

  94. jhoanna Says:
    July 26th, 2006 at 3:33 am

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    July 26th, 2006 at 7:06 pm

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  96. bAiLeY cUtE Says:
    July 26th, 2006 at 7:07 pm

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  97. fortune anne Says:
    July 28th, 2006 at 8:01 pm

    walw lang!!!!hehehe

  98. fortune anne Says:
    July 28th, 2006 at 8:04 pm

    hellow people of d world??/

  99. Steve Says:
    July 29th, 2006 at 9:57 pm

    jack,

    i agree with what you said about hiring the BEST people for the job.

    though i have to make a little protest here…

    i didn’t quite define what i meant by BEST in my previous comment. so please do not make your interpretation of BEST mine. your definition of BEST seems to be confined to technical knowledge, but not mine.

    my definition of BEST includes the following:
    1. growth potential
    2. technical knowledge
    3. communication skills
    4. honesty

    no one can be perfect in every aspect mentioned above. when i say BEST, it means the candidate that scores the highest considering the abovementioned four criteria.

    when i used RIGHT and BEST as the main criteria to hire, i was considering the situation where you have more than one RIGHT candidate but you are only hiring one.

    an egotistical employer would hire second or third BEST for the reason discussed in Yizheng’s original posting.

    a deserving employer would only hire the BEST, and BEST as in the one as defined by me.

    please do not put words in my mouth. thanks

  100. jacqueline Says:
    July 31st, 2006 at 2:21 pm

    jack..boy or grl?? heheee!! la lang coz jst curious..my friends
    usually called me jack,,but i’m a grl…nonsense nuh?? nway,wala lang nki2gulo lang..

    ….baka lang kc grl u jack
    then steve s not aware of that.
    maybe,just maybe ur MTB(meant to be!)haha!!

    guys,u have 2 knw ha coz maybe
    8s just the way 2 cross ur paths..mwah!!!!

    sana nga nuh?? let me knw ha? saksi me…

    jack @ steve..jst making friends 2 both of u coz u two seems so brilliants..peace bro!!!

    kip n touch…tnx!

  101. josel Says:
    August 1st, 2006 at 9:48 pm

    gsto ko lang mag post dito,gsto ko lang sabihin……… ingat palagi……….jejejeje

  102. karen Says:
    August 1st, 2006 at 10:26 pm

    hai people in thwe wold

  103. karen Says:
    August 1st, 2006 at 10:26 pm

    hai people in the word

  104. -pornstradamus- Says:
    August 2nd, 2006 at 7:12 am

    Pinapatunayan lang tlga nito na maraming squatters sa Pinas.

    Bakit? Appropriate ba naman na magpost ng mga nonsense and unrelated topics sa thread na para lang sa naka-post na topic sa Blog? But then, sabi nyo nga “nakikigulo lang kami”.

    Haay! Ang Pinas walang asenso.

  105. Yvonne Says:
    August 3rd, 2006 at 3:14 pm

    hi…can u be my friend?

  106. ALVIN Says:
    August 3rd, 2006 at 6:59 pm

    i agree on what i read on this blog

  107. tonya Says:
    August 4th, 2006 at 9:48 am

    there has been a misconceptions with regard to the funtions of both HR and Management.those are separated by their functions and specialties and eventually being the integral force in the organizations.HR are not merely to interview applicants and choose.It goes to a process.HR chooses applicants that fit on the job it is true that biases cannot be eradicated in one or every organizations but we are trying to minimize it in our way of carefully choosing the best and right staffs in the upper management which has to infulence the whole work-force thus, going to the right direction. What im trying to say is that it is not The HR or The Management itself is the issue here. it is

  108. tonya Says:
    August 4th, 2006 at 10:21 am

    It is the person handling the job itself.It should be stated that the HRD and Management staff are also placed there based on their competency level and it can be defined what kind of organization the industry had. Thus, Organizations are being classified in many types. So one can able simplify and define what inside and what to expect from that oraganization.

  109. tonya Says:
    August 4th, 2006 at 10:47 am

    In my opinion, applicants are chosen based on their personality,skills,and attitude on the job.but those are only preliminary. That is why we are given a probationary period in the particular job to really make sure the job fits us or we fit on the job.Best and Right come along in the job. and it the proper handling and motivation that will make the person fully utilize his/her capability.

  110. Pam J Says:
    August 4th, 2006 at 10:19 pm

    Let me Give my views on this issue: I just want to comment to the one who commented that HR are only a “PUPPET TO THE ORGANIZATION.” First and foremost you should know what is the job description of HR Team.HR Team composes several designations however most of us our mere impression when we talk about HR is only all about hiring & firing. BOth hiring & firing requires an interview. But let me explain to you ladies and gentlemen that HR doesnt only carry the interview process and the screening of applicants credentials but they are the one who will recommend to the immediate supervisor or to the Top Management what is likely in need of the Company. HR are the ones suggesting to the Top Management or line managers that they are already in need of manpower based on the problems raised by the LIne Managers. Line Managers can only raise the problem but HR are the ones who will study if the requirement of the said Department or Division is that vital for further improvement and development of the business otherwise HR will not agree of increasing the overhead if they sees that existing manpwers are not properly utilized and no production is maximized. HR should know the job descriptions of the respective post in the organization and they should also know the entire operation. HR should also be part of the Interview process because their recommendation is also essential if the requirement is really that essential to benefit the Company and not only for HR interest. When you say HR its a wide variety of jobs involved and that includes, Hiring, Job Appointment, Salary & Benefit Structures, Controlling of Overtime, Employer & Employees Conflicts,Handling of Employees grievances,Employment Contract, Computation of Payroll as per the time cards, MOnitoring of Employees Absences, Annual Leaves, TYpe of leaves (Sick/Maternal/Paternal), Employees Insurances, Employees COmplaints and Handling Man-hour count and Maintaining & Updating of Employees or COmpany Manual. So you cannot say alone that HR is only useful for Interview process. They are the most important in that process so their presence is really highly recommended. To avoid biases, Company should not employ or hire applicants family relations. And during the inteview process the following Company officers should be present, Immidiate Supervisor, Department Manager/Division Manager, HR Manager & the Operations Manager (if there is). then to be recommended to the highest rank of the Company for final appointment.There must be a criteria of hiring so that guidelines are being set.

  111. Soek Ying Says:
    August 6th, 2006 at 5:50 am

    ……..Is not better to you if you have a point likes that,I just have only 1 comment to you, whatever you likes it or not, but please think it over a bit.”NEVER REGRET WHAT YOU DO, BUT ONLY REGRET WHAT YOU DIDN’T DO.”

  112. mitchmatch Says:
    August 6th, 2006 at 5:22 pm

    What you have in your Resume’ is Not all the time what you have in yourself. If you doubt that your are not qualified because of poor academic records then look for someone to help you In. (I’m refering to a backer). Sometimes, they will Not hire you because you know something, or have an exceptional skills BUT it’s bcoz you know Someone! hehehe…it’s hard to accept but it’s the reality….

  113. narade Says:
    August 7th, 2006 at 2:03 am

    hello nice to meet you.i hope you can do the best.i have read the article. i agree with what you say.yaht up to u. that reality

  114. Asp Says:
    August 7th, 2006 at 8:17 pm

    nice one!

  115. jUliE Says:
    August 7th, 2006 at 8:35 pm

    bumpy

  116. Wacky Says:
    August 8th, 2006 at 6:42 pm

    Hehehehe! Its really interesting to read what many of you guys wrote. I can’t help but agree with many of you. Many companies have grown over the years because of talented people running the organization. Now as that talent begins to leave or as they turn over their responsibilities to other people they fail to see that they do not have the systems in place to hire the right people for the right job.

    Remember that a company is only as good as the people running it. So it is critical that we have the right people in the company. By right I mean someone who fits the needs of the position from skills, to motivation, to experience and what knowledge you should have for the position.

    Not all companies recognize this and rely on just the resume or CV, test and interview (which is often gut feel). Companies that have begun to recognize the value of the people and their contribution to the companies overall success have invested greatly on their HR systems.

    You still have the hordes of companies that go through tests and interviews and in the ned you have no clear idea of why you were accepted or not. Some even feel bad about it! I remember a company I applied for before that lost my resume but wouldn’t admit it. How do I know? Well I was interviewed by one of the higher ups and said they would give me a call soon and I should start getting ready to start with them. When I called back after weeks of waiting they didnt even know who I was?!? Later I was told that they were waiting for me to report in and wondered why I never did? Can you believe that?!?!

    Then there are those companies that I’ve applied for that have taken the time to test what I know through simulations, spend time talking with me to find out what I’ve really done, checked to see how I would fit in the organization and matched my own goals and aspirations with that of the company. And despite the fact that it was a long and draining process I still felt good afterwards thinking that this was a good company to work for.

    As interviewees all we see is the interview and the tests. But that already tells us alot about the organization. If you are not happy and confident with the process they chances are you wont be happy and confident with the company. But then that’s just my view! =P

  117. Mary Grace Says:
    August 14th, 2006 at 2:55 am

    hi… muzta na po lhat ng d q fwend… hehehe…

  118. Anne Says:
    August 14th, 2006 at 5:26 pm

    no……………………………….

  119. shai Says:
    August 15th, 2006 at 12:43 am

    its good

  120. tonya Says:
    August 15th, 2006 at 8:02 am

    hmmm… once again the fact that we are indivudaually and collectively different type of animals in various culture

  121. tonya Says:
    August 15th, 2006 at 8:12 am

    so it might be nice to think of idealism in every facet of human activities to uphold righteousness and bring the world into a paradise. tehee… its kinda scary because flaws in life makes us human after all!!!!

  122. tonya Says:
    August 15th, 2006 at 9:03 am

    maybe we should stop commenting on this blog topic. I believe everyone has been educated enough to know the basic rule of the HR process. but what im tryin to imbibe them also is the fact that we are indivudually diffent in persona and the needs also varies which can be the definition of every acts.

  123. Rex Says:
    August 15th, 2006 at 4:01 pm

    trust and thy will be done :)

  124. christine jean Says:
    August 16th, 2006 at 5:34 am

    hi…..muzta na kau dyan

  125. Sheila Jeth Jet Says:
    August 16th, 2006 at 6:01 am

    well… all i can say is that we’re all unique and we have different views in lyf….

  126. nesly Says:
    August 17th, 2006 at 2:03 pm

    im nesly hi po
    where r u im here in manila u u like call me my #09187852220
    ok

  127. BARRY JACK Says:
    August 17th, 2006 at 7:28 pm

    hallo can u be my friend

  128. NeVe Says:
    August 17th, 2006 at 8:59 pm

    it jz a topic issue…wats ur comments or opinions its stand ur own…tat is no point…

  129. Yuli Says:
    August 18th, 2006 at 5:26 am

    hmm…nice
    be my friend, ok

  130. neelam Says:
    August 19th, 2006 at 9:53 pm

    Well…i really agree with ur statements.But d nice thing 4 both of them that cooperative 4 everyhings.Its a good way to make d company be d best!!

  131. zali Says:
    August 20th, 2006 at 12:06 am

    aku dah stat cuti

  132. tonya Says:
    August 20th, 2006 at 7:12 am

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  133. JhEff Says:
    August 24th, 2006 at 9:59 pm

    hi labs i luv u kaluguran n kaluguran daka

  134. Ynette-Ryan Says:
    August 25th, 2006 at 11:16 pm

    can u post something about relationships–long distance rel.

  135. JEFFREY Says:
    August 25th, 2006 at 11:56 pm

    ayos tan…………….

  136. -DiN- Says:
    August 26th, 2006 at 10:31 am

    yo

  137. GENNY Says:
    August 27th, 2006 at 5:03 am

    I agree this statement about this commentation. you know b’coz. some people our atitude is bad and some are excellent. thats why I believe in love

  138. rexson Says:
    August 27th, 2006 at 3:27 pm

    mmmmm want to add my name lag here hehehehe check me out!!!!

  139. Mhel Says:
    August 28th, 2006 at 3:27 am

    about that…well i guess? leave it to the HRD dept.there dept. is in-charge in hiring employees ..that means they have the capacity to know whom among their employees are competent enough to work to their organization or comapany…even if they choose or some employees that after a month are not well competent to their assigned work…its no big deal coz we have an evaluation period that may rate their performance. what do you think.

  140. tonya Says:
    August 28th, 2006 at 10:17 am

    u have a point but its quite vague. And if u try to read more of these comments u can actually see ur point of idea.nice try anyway.

  141. jOvz Says:
    August 29th, 2006 at 3:51 am

    KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! GPDBLESS!

  142. rcroycetorocks Says:
    August 29th, 2006 at 3:51 am

    tol………..thank u …….sa …….pag invite mo……………………god blezz…………….

  143. jOvz Says:
    August 29th, 2006 at 3:52 am

    who wants to invite me.. addme tojovz_06@yahoo.com

  144. LLOYD Says:
    August 30th, 2006 at 2:59 am

    ah… i really believe that the only way to improve what we have in a friendly mind

  145. Michael Says:
    August 30th, 2006 at 8:19 am

    My name is Michael John W. Sablaon.im 14 years old.i live in camaman-an

  146. Michael Says:
    August 30th, 2006 at 8:19 am

    http://www.friendster.com/user.php?uid=8551230

  147. Marc Says:
    August 31st, 2006 at 4:46 am

    Very excellent.

  148. errol Says:
    August 31st, 2006 at 5:32 am

    i believe that if u want to be a successfull in your choosen field you must have a talent plus desire,discipline,dedication and determination.

  149. Mary Grace Says:
    August 31st, 2006 at 11:07 pm

    yeah sometimes it really happen but i do kno some who domnot do such things like that!!!!

  150. chen ross Says:
    August 31st, 2006 at 11:29 pm

    hehehe

  151. Richele Says:
    September 2nd, 2006 at 4:55 am

    Pinapatunayan lang tlga nito na maraming squatters sa Pinas.

    Bakit? Appropriate ba naman na magpost ng mga nonsense and unrelated topics sa thread na para lang sa naka-post na topic sa Blog? But then, sabi nyo nga “nakikigulo lang kami”.

    Haay! Ang Pinas walang asenso

  152. zivcarl Says:
    September 3rd, 2006 at 3:25 am

    Maybe thats true but u dont have rights to say things jst to downgrade ur own people. those people are hard on their lives they dont even a good dreams of a goodlife yet they are humans and jst a victim of poverty.

  153. zivcarl Says:
    September 3rd, 2006 at 3:34 am

    Before u say somthing,try to evaluate urself also, what are ur achievements and what kind of person u are.instead of downgrading unfortunate people..extend help in a smallest way and that is a virtue.

  154. jOy Says:
    September 4th, 2006 at 5:38 pm

    wow d best

  155. N i c h o l a s Says:
    September 5th, 2006 at 3:14 am

    HR vs Supervisor …

    darn it!! never thought dat such topic can be so dam ” hot” ..

    hmm .. nice place to hangout .. most likely it will matured my understanding of HR .. dept …

    ~ Keep it up .. brings on the Fire ..

    haha .. im employed anyway .. Forgotten how the feeling oF being interview edi” >.<”

  156. heraldine Says:
    September 5th, 2006 at 11:30 pm

    hi???wanna be your friend????????just add me!!!madine_cute08@yahoo.com!!!

  157. Reeza Says:
    September 6th, 2006 at 1:21 am

    Bye…………..

  158. cmai Says:
    September 6th, 2006 at 4:56 am

    hi

  159. hanny Says:
    September 8th, 2006 at 12:40 am

    to be a jobseeking is not easy. i’ve heard that news. i was a jobseeking in 2000. i’ve applied 4 company. 2 invited me for interview. only 1 let me be their winning team. At this moment i’m still working in this company, because they don’t pay by peanuts. And i guess i’m not the only one.

  160. Richard Says:
    September 8th, 2006 at 6:18 am

    wqwewqeqweqweqwe

  161. Jaypee Says:
    September 8th, 2006 at 7:12 pm

    salamat po!!!!!!!!!!!

  162. Edison Says:
    September 9th, 2006 at 4:51 am

    Hmmmmm…..

  163. daisy Says:
    September 9th, 2006 at 6:04 pm

    as future job hunter in the near..near future i wil bear in mind those very knowledgable and mind awakening comment!…….

  164. vatos Says:
    September 10th, 2006 at 10:10 pm

    elow
    po
    kuya
    hinahanam
    pal
    ikaw
    ni ate

  165. Mark Joel Says:
    September 11th, 2006 at 1:15 am

    i need a good wall paper

  166. EFJ Dagz Says:
    September 11th, 2006 at 1:25 am

    I raised my agreement with your statement.

  167. ManKMusT Says:
    September 12th, 2006 at 1:50 am

    i need a good wallpaper about climbing

  168. shemy Says:
    September 12th, 2006 at 3:05 am

    your a good observer

  169. dhany Says:
    September 12th, 2006 at 8:01 am

    my blog is only

  170. zivcarl Says:
    September 12th, 2006 at 9:38 am

    I need new socks and new underwear

  171. zivcarl Says:
    September 12th, 2006 at 9:54 am

    I seek job because i need to work, i work because i need money, i need money because i have needs.They seek worker because they need to have work, they work because they need money, they need money because they have needs.WELL… WHO`S THE BOSS??

  172. kim Says:
    September 13th, 2006 at 5:54 am

    can you give me a picture of you

  173. ernest norman Says:
    September 13th, 2006 at 9:30 pm

    churi…i havent experience bein’ interviewed bu anyone…studying pkc me eh…hihihihihhihi

  174. martoni Says:
    September 14th, 2006 at 6:26 am

    it’s very good.and I am sorry,I can’t speak english.if I’m not understand.

  175. leonardo Says:
    September 15th, 2006 at 11:57 pm

    la gd tda

  176. maribel Says:
    September 16th, 2006 at 1:14 am

    ,,eOw gling na sna ei

  177. maribel Says:
    September 16th, 2006 at 1:17 am

    ,,Hehehehe,,ang gling tlaga ng lil brat’z lalo na si Maribel_Angel,,,,Astia dvah,,gya kOh,,,

  178. janine Says:
    September 16th, 2006 at 4:19 am

    halo…toinkz…

  179. Swandy Marbun Says:
    September 16th, 2006 at 12:25 pm

    mauliate ma dok tu TUHAN i.Just keep your patient

  180. jeLviN Says:
    September 16th, 2006 at 10:24 pm

    is so cool…

  181. reen Says:
    September 17th, 2006 at 3:52 am

    wey,ni jao ma CUTE!!!!!!!!!!

  182. ameliza Says:
    September 17th, 2006 at 10:06 am

    i agree…and thats rilly true and happening. good luck and more power….god bless!

  183. rose-ann Says:
    September 18th, 2006 at 12:04 am

    hi dear
    well i have to ask you somthing are you happy right now i mean are you contented, didnt you feel like theres something missing??/?/
    coz if you ask me there is and the big problem is i dont know what is it

  184. zivcarl Says:
    September 18th, 2006 at 6:10 am

    wahh! i dont get u?! what do you mean happy?contented? is that all about sex?

  185. aida Says:
    September 18th, 2006 at 9:44 pm

    hello po thanks po for info.pilipino u ba???

  186. rose-ann Says:
    September 19th, 2006 at 12:05 am

    well you know what know you dont know me even i, i dont also know you but i want to have a conversation with you. by the way im looking for carl i think but i dont find him.

  187. DAVE Says:
    September 19th, 2006 at 12:07 am

    i agree!!!just do what ever it takes….

  188. rose-ann Says:
    September 19th, 2006 at 12:09 am

    well dear its not all about sex
    you know what me to i dont understand what i feel. well stop talking about me, how about you are you happy in your life right now

  189. zivcarl Says:
    September 19th, 2006 at 3:54 am

    !life is what we all seek in many ways… sometimes we are happy.. sometimes we are lonely… sometimes we are angry… what we dont know is life is worth of life. the essence of life is a more complicated cycle in human life….Sex is the most dangerous play on earth

  190. ruth Says:
    September 20th, 2006 at 4:33 pm

    wala lang

  191. aset Says:
    September 20th, 2006 at 7:39 pm

    delete m0 pa yn!!!

  192. hanny Says:
    September 21st, 2006 at 8:21 pm

    fyi:
    my friend has working for 7 months, and company has changed 3 president director.
    nothing everlasting in this world.

  193. Marie Says:
    September 21st, 2006 at 8:51 pm

    impressive, true to its sense..

  194. Ryan Says:
    September 22nd, 2006 at 7:18 pm

    Truly!
    Even high executives can’t say how long they will be on their position.

  195. Mae Anne Says:
    September 23rd, 2006 at 5:13 am

    hi to all…………

  196. Elizer Says:
    September 23rd, 2006 at 8:08 am

    nice entry, really an eye openener.. :)

  197. mdee Says:
    September 24th, 2006 at 8:17 pm

    no… comment….

  198. joseph Says:
    September 24th, 2006 at 8:19 pm

    do what things can help you better!

  199. joan grace Says:
    September 24th, 2006 at 11:55 pm

    just do ur best!!!

  200. 'AdrYAnucus' Says:
    September 25th, 2006 at 7:05 am

    I’d like to quote you for that. I totally agree with you. Sometimes, you need to put both the HR and the supervisor in the interview room so as not to have a bias in the selection of the applicants. At least, there would be consensus in choosing the right person for the job ;)

  201. nipf Says:
    September 25th, 2006 at 7:37 am

    hiii…..
    u it’s…..
    ok……..
    hahahahaha…
    just kidding ^^

  202. aNtOniO Says:
    September 25th, 2006 at 10:05 am

    hi hello I!d to quote you that i totally agree with you.

  203. OniD Says:
    September 25th, 2006 at 8:14 pm

    sometimes it really goes like that.

  204. joselyn Says:
    September 26th, 2006 at 6:51 pm

    hahahahah?well add niyo nalng ako safrenster joselyn_precious@yahoo.com
    il w8

  205. benjel james Says:
    September 28th, 2006 at 5:13 am

    BASTAT MAY KUMATOK LAGI MONG PAGBUKSAN DAPAT PAG BUKSAN

  206. colline Says:
    September 28th, 2006 at 10:43 am

    you’re brilliant, be happy… hope you’ll be my friend soon

  207. Sarah Says:
    September 28th, 2006 at 5:59 pm

    We know naman dvah ganyan ang lyf…….mwaaaah…..God bles……..——

  208. Mohd Says:
    September 29th, 2006 at 11:06 pm

    helloooooo

  209. frey Says:
    September 30th, 2006 at 12:22 am

    well anyway i was a victim of the hr recenyly cos i m applying for a call center then i have an interview with this lady its seems that she ddnt like me and the questions has something to do with the personal background i answer those questiona nad perhaps i got what they want as call center agent but anyway its up to hr but she ddnt like me…thats it…..thanks

  210. Sheila Dhimple Says:
    October 2nd, 2006 at 8:29 am

    ok!hello!wla po akong ma commont pls add me…….shekhina_mae@yahoo.com.ph tnx…….mwahhhhh that’s all

  211. ronald Says:
    October 3rd, 2006 at 9:17 pm

    hr personnel will only interview about your characteristics but the supervisor will go on about ur experiences on the job u r applying

  212. neil brian Says:
    October 4th, 2006 at 5:55 am

    sir, just select the one who fit the position,dontlook thier physical appearance!!!! thank you…. GOD bless us…

  213. Gonzales Says:
    October 4th, 2006 at 7:25 pm

    hi

  214. derrick Says:
    October 4th, 2006 at 8:33 pm

    nice explanation!!!but not totally by hiring someone whose very satisfactorily passing the interview, mostly applicant got mental shocked during the process…so its better have a follow-up background investigation about his attitudes in the actual workplace…
    but anyway nothing’s bother me ‘coz i’m now employed…
    better luck!!!!!!!!!!
    add me:dftusi_23yahoo.com

  215. katrina Says:
    October 5th, 2006 at 10:46 pm

    nothing to do……
    just be it next tym!!!1

  216. rhuby Says:
    October 5th, 2006 at 11:00 pm

    if you want to be my friend add me pinkmine_08@yahoo.com

  217. zivcarl Says:
    October 6th, 2006 at 6:18 am

    sick

  218. virgie Says:
    October 7th, 2006 at 7:54 pm

    hhahhhahhh

  219. kleyr Says:
    October 8th, 2006 at 11:32 pm

    ellow…
    assalamualaykum…
    i really enjoyed reading all the blah…………………
    do add me as one of ur frends…..vythkleyr.4480@yahoo.com

  220. aqienz Says:
    October 9th, 2006 at 1:18 am

    emm ok jer………..

  221. emilyn Says:
    October 9th, 2006 at 8:23 am

    hi nice dear,, i lke ur ahhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmm ad me ok emz_cutez@yahoo.com tnx

  222. aNtOniO Says:
    October 9th, 2006 at 11:18 am

    HELLO THERE HOW ARE YOU
    CAN YOU BE NEW FRIEND
    XZANTONIO@YAHOO.COM

  223. Rafael Lawrence Says:
    October 10th, 2006 at 9:25 pm

    i juz wanna know more about u people…..

  224. Vanessa Says:
    October 13th, 2006 at 5:25 am

    im so sad when i saw your pictures in penang…i hope one of this day i can go there.. i want to see the person who brougth me too much pain…i need to see that girl for my own peace of mind…i need an answer why my boyfriend and i came to an end… your pictures made me feel close to my boyfriend…

  225. liria Says:
    October 13th, 2006 at 6:05 am

    hey…
    i like that..!!!

  226. curt Says:
    October 15th, 2006 at 3:45 am

    I would like to comment on someone telling that physical characteristic is not so important in the job interview.Physical attributes is one of the main criteria in choosing an applicant in most companies.

  227. YHANIE Says:
    October 15th, 2006 at 9:22 pm

    wahhhhhh…..

  228. pie Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 7:41 pm

    thanks a lot!

  229. Irish Says:
    October 17th, 2006 at 2:21 pm

    halu…mwaaahhhhh

  230. Ronn Says:
    October 19th, 2006 at 2:43 am

    As the old saying goes… “Class A Managers pick Class A employees… while Class B Managers pick Class B & C employees”…

    The lesson here is to NOT HIRE Class B Managers so you don’t have to deal with them…

  231. Connie Says:
    October 19th, 2006 at 7:24 am

    I am totally & DefiniTeLy AGREE with what you say!
    But some Businessman would like to hire those smart person to help him up.
    Anyway, do depends on how an employee hiDe their ’smart’ in the interview!

  232. bienvenido Says:
    October 19th, 2006 at 8:07 pm

    brilliant idea.

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    I am a Recruitment Consultant.
    I find that these days, HR Department is very very particular and fussy when they do hire. Sometime i feel that they don even dare to take a bit of risk. No risk no gain. A candidate Character is more important than his/her experience, Many HR often overlook this. Is it not easy to pass interview these days. Connection and luck is important.

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  238. Heaven Says:
    October 22nd, 2006 at 7:33 pm

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    1. growth potential
    2. technical knowledge
    3. communication skills
    4. honesty
    1.If a person scores “low” in one of the four stated stipulative definitions, then he would not be the RIGHT person in the job even though by virtue of deduction he is still the BEST?
    2. Secondly, if the person scores high in all four stipulative definitions which is tantamount to the BEST, would you consider the person then the RIGHT person in the job? Or, does that mean that when you say BEST person in the job it is necessarily the RIGHT person in the job, but not otherwise? Or When you say BEST person in the job (having highly satisfied or having a high or very high scores in all of the four stipulative definitions), is it also equivalent to the RIGHT person in the job?
    3.If it is best then it is right.
    Not right.
    Therefore not best. - I specualte that you accept this argument but deny the following:
    4.It is right then it is the best.
    It is right.
    Therefore it is best. - because your argument will look like this:
    5.It is best then it is right.
    It is best.
    Therefore it is right. - this is logical, and this is true only in the bounds of two deductive logic, but not necessarily true in the real life argument. Because what is best is not necessarily right in reality. Would you mind if you provide me also the definition of “right” as constrasted to “best” strictly in terms of “best person in the job” and the “right person in the job”. Thanks

  239. xanne Says:
    October 22nd, 2006 at 11:30 pm

    hi!just droppin by…well, i think both parties has the chance in doing such. individual must know their right and somehow do something on it…each person has the right of that what so called right, we are all entitled to that. but on the other hand, if i’m the interviewer, i would rather choose the person who don’t have enough talents and enough skills but do have the right attitudes…because i think every person do have talents and skills? it can be acquired…but attitudes…well, that’s the totality of you..as a person. thank yah

  240. Fat n Fearless Says:
    October 23rd, 2006 at 1:28 am

    I give my 70% agree and 30% disagree answer to this. Im working under HR and beleive it or not, it is true. Most of the Recruiters or HR People are SUBJECTIVE, sad to say.

  241. Aisa Says:
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  244. Cosme Says:
    October 24th, 2006 at 2:40 am

    I thought I was alone with this idea. I was disappointed by this process of hiring employees by HR alone.
    I am having trouble of landing a good job in the engineering companies everytime I apply for them. I was sigled out by the idea from the HR that I am not competitive enough for the job position just because I am not good in ‘Question and Answer’ portion and that I am not that good in speaking.
    Oftentimes that HR interviewers has no knowledge or no Idea of the engineering (may be because they are not a graduate of engineering or no actual experience of the job of simply because they are graduate of Behavioral Sciences and/or Psychology). They are not trained to or no idea what to ask their applicants regarding the positions or the actual job specifications their applicant are applying to.
    It would be better if a recommendation from the immediate supervisor after a thorough interview and tests with the applicant will do the job and help HR in the
    hiring process.

  245. ROGUE Says:
    October 24th, 2006 at 11:57 am

    lols… it sad coz i refused the offer to work in HRD to fill the position as HR..great lost!

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  246. -BUBUs- Says:
    October 24th, 2006 at 3:24 pm

    Hmmm…TRUE…I’m interviewing applicants from our company here in Cebu and Chad here actually makes sense! I have one collegue here wherein she’s one of the interviewer as well just like me, and she’s one way or another like the person being on the spot here! If she feels like there’s an applicant in the company who’s far more greater than she is, she will automatically judge that person telling him/her that this person would definitely have an attitude problem once hired! How bad is that? She’s really worst from my stand point and it’s really unfair for those applicants that we have because this collegue of mine is giving them black eye just because they have more achievements compared to the interviewer. BAD!

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  248. aNn-G Says:
    October 24th, 2006 at 7:55 pm

    Good point. Let me pour a bit of my words here if u don’t mind. =p What the article says was indeed very true. Put it this way, if us wouldhave been the supervisor, would you employ someone you can’t work? Putting aside he’s smarter than us. Working in a company doesn’t mean just plainly contributing to the company but working together towards achieving something is much more important, isn’t it?

  249. Ronn Says:
    October 24th, 2006 at 9:49 pm

    Gee… it seems that the substandard job seekers who posted in this page would rather throw shiit at HR than admit that they are uhm…. unmarketable… No Offense…

  250. kris Says:
    October 24th, 2006 at 11:28 pm

    its ok……

  251. richard Says:
    October 25th, 2006 at 8:01 am

    o c’mon.. a simple debate in a simple meeting can get into the solution on who should be the best applicant that will fit unto that position which will not also be too complicated on both parties.. Saman Angal?

  252. richard Says:
    October 25th, 2006 at 8:07 am

    can i suggest something?…i think it’s better if the HR would also include the question and answer portion,,ahmm.. written interview…analyze..then after that, the supervisor will make a personal interview then to the HR.. tapos mag-usap kayo ng masinsinan.. ok?

  253. Russell Says:
    October 25th, 2006 at 8:37 pm

    theres really a conflict of interest, just imagine a superior hiring the one who may replace him if that individual excceds the company’s expectation. HR will definitely want to screen a well deserve and qualified applicant but its different thing fot the supervisors or managers. Majority of the are insecure with sum1 they feel may actually gain on their knowledge and replace them.

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  257. Murugan Says:
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  260. ChRiStOpHeR Says:
    October 29th, 2006 at 4:31 am

    I dis-agree by the author way of connecting two different variable,,HR function is to process the hiring by specified,valid,tested and accepatable set of standard of the company. It’s a set of rules and guidelines provided to get the best possible candidate there is, a supervisor role is to get what he feels will qualify and can do the job disregarding specified set of standard by the HR it somehow a personal decision,and it doesn’t matter if he arrive at a wrong or right selection its a matter of selecting the best course of action among the less…Life could never be fair,, and who told you that its fair? then blame whoever she or he maybe, so you will not have this kind of antithetic thinking..

  261. Hilbert Says:
    October 29th, 2006 at 5:11 pm

    It is better to have balance in every situation, so for me its better to that the HR and the supervisor will make an interview to the applicant. In any case, either the supervsor is after to the smart applicant or not, the company will get what it want, an employee that is worthy of company’s pay check or that can contribute to the company’s success.

    To the author of this blog..

    If you think you’re very qualified to the position and the company doesn’t hired you because of that “supervisor’s thinking”, then don’t be downed and get mad to all HR’s. IT’S THEIR LOSS, NOT YOURS…

  262. AL Says:
    October 29th, 2006 at 6:13 pm

    ei,

    …then what about hope?

  263. Boon Han Says:
    October 29th, 2006 at 8:36 pm

    Company Politics.
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  268. RoNnEL JiGgZ Says:
    October 30th, 2006 at 6:59 am

    As a HR Professional for sometime, and as i call my circle of friends who are into Recruitment and Hiring - the “new breed of HR Professionals”, we do the hiring the unconventional way. We are using competency-based selection program for our hiring processes. Professional who haven’t attended competency based as a tool in recuitment, tends to do hiring process by analyzing gestures, hand and eye movement. Which is a no, no, in hiring process. We are not even allowed to interpret behavioral examinations given unless we are psychometricians or psychologist.

    I agree that some HR professionals have the tendency to abuse their position as HR’s and most of the time have this “know it all” attitude or projecting a “Mr/Ms. Right personality”.

    For recruitment, the role of HR is to see to it that the company’s core competencies and core values are found in the candidate - the rest of the process is about technical competency - refers to the candidates professional experience (relevance, no. of years, duties and responsibilities).

    One best way to predict whether the person can indeed perform, is to check his previous employ. However, bear ion mind that people change and at times get better.

    Remember experience is always overstated, personality, attitude, and motivation are more important - qouted from my former Org. Bev. Professor, now President of a Pharmnaceutical company.

  269. DELETE Says:
    October 30th, 2006 at 8:31 pm

    Yup. Competence based HR works.

  270. mahaliacarlamae Says:
    October 31st, 2006 at 12:39 am

    sometimes,it’s “LUCK” that a person needs..and don’t forget,God has a purpose for everything,ryt?maybe,God wants to give you something better and bigger than that job..so,don’t blame those HR’s and Supervisors,they’re just doing their job.. (,”)

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  272. meryll Says:
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  273. Catherine Says:
    November 1st, 2006 at 8:16 pm

    hi….yi zheng…you have a point there becease some interviewer was judging the personality of the person not her/his ability to work.

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  276. Florence Says:
    November 2nd, 2006 at 7:48 pm

    ur rigth, most of the tyms the sv chck for the least or less threatening applicant.but in hr dont u think they hire only the people they knew most?….its not what you know, its whom you know… it was the sad part….

  277. eva Says:
    November 2nd, 2006 at 10:20 pm

    ehm…what can i say..?? i think 50:50 lor.. there’s a part i agree, the other part i dun agree.. juz as simple as that…

  278. zivcarl Says:
    November 3rd, 2006 at 5:59 am

    Enough for this bulshitz…. Some comments are misguided and people may tend to follow so pls stop commenting based on intuitions!!!!

  279. BrOkEn Says:
    November 3rd, 2006 at 6:05 am

    that ideal wld be ideal. den again, the immediate supervisor wld have his responsibilities and most of his time wld be taken up by it. He wld nt hve the time to join in every single interview. imagine the nightmare of screening 50 odd potentials before choosing one. there will be too much a backlog of work for the supervisor…

  280. Jerry Says:
    November 4th, 2006 at 10:41 am

    Wow this topic is hot and everyone has their own opinion. But you know what guys? When it comes into everything, I don’t believe in luck. I only believe in timing. Think of it….

  281. honyslim Says:
    November 4th, 2006 at 4:54 pm

    i agree with you…

  282. Lutchie Says:
    November 4th, 2006 at 5:40 pm

    Sometimes the interviewer did not give any chances for us an applicant to get hired, and who knows we will excel on this area and be more successful than them. That’s why we as an applicant applied for it because we know we have the potential and qualities that they desire. I give some comments with the interviewer, most of the time they asked too many personal questions which were not really related to work that we had applied for, and sometimes questions might be quite insulting and intimidating which in fact they know how life has been going on today in our country or they just don’t mind it and maybe they can’t sympathasize at all with our fellow filipinos which they know that the applicant has really have a potential. I think, the interviewer too has the cause to make most of the people here in our country doesn’t have any work and push to a level of “stambay” or unemployed. I believe all of us pinoys are very hardworking and we get learn easily that’s why other countries loves us to be employed to them and as what I am saying, why is it here took us a hard time to be employed and had undergo so many process, and with the time and effort we had showed in the end was wasted. Then we have to wait after 3 months to apply again as their policy. That shows only what the our country seems to be right now. Hey! its us who makes the policy and decision. That decision makes most people here cant able to have a job though I believe most of us have really the potential to do so. That is why the people in our country slow in progress compared if we work abroad.

  283. Lutchie Says:
    November 4th, 2006 at 5:51 pm

    Don’t be a crab mentality. Help each other to raise. Be optimistic not for your own good but for the whole country as well.

  284. Lutchie Says:
    November 4th, 2006 at 6:29 pm

    Don’t get rude. We are only humans. Humans can commit mistakes but can learn from it. All of us has its needs, we can’t able to get it when all us have this crab mentality. Be fair enough. Be happy. Don’t think you’re too high to yourself cause all of us are the same. Get hired as many as the company wants or help them to improve or refer him/her to someone else. Be positve. Be considerate because we are all in different path of this world where unexpected situations may happen, how about if it may happens to you then??

  285. zivcarl Says:
    November 4th, 2006 at 7:07 pm

    Too much of your side.

  286. Wira Says:
    November 4th, 2006 at 9:04 pm

    I agree with the above statement. That’s way is more controlled and will be looked in good communication and coordination. Best regard, Thank you.

  287. kryptonite Says:
    November 5th, 2006 at 4:20 am

    everyone has his/her good points either it is based on their personal experiences or on their intellectual view on the matter. Since we are humans who were given such a freedom to choose the coarse of our actions, so do theinterviewers..either it would be bias or righteously. my suggestion would be.. BE YOURSELF! I mean, do the best that you can be. Show off your best assets either it were your academic achievements, standing experiences, your good values and attitudes. Portray if you are, what both the HRs’ or the supervisors’ looking for the perspective employee. goodluck to all!!

  288. rhodora Says:
    November 6th, 2006 at 4:18 pm

    none

  289. zivcarl Says:
    November 7th, 2006 at 9:27 am

    nonesense

  290. RonggoLawe Says:
    November 7th, 2006 at 6:14 pm

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  291. cheche Says:
    November 7th, 2006 at 8:40 pm

    ala lng y/.

  292. cheche Says:
    November 7th, 2006 at 8:40 pm

    ala lng y?
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  293. meno Says:
    November 8th, 2006 at 5:45 am

    Ya haha..I agree for the point showed.

  294. Marlyn Says:
    November 8th, 2006 at 9:21 pm

    True indeed!

    perception is tainted by interest (vested). . .
    biases can be countered by integrity. . .

  295. Annie Says:
    November 10th, 2006 at 6:11 pm

    I totally agree with you but I would suggest that the candidate’s future supervisor should interview them separately rather than interviewing together. In this way, the supervisor can judge whether he/she would be able to work with the candidate in the future and there would not be any biasness in the decision made.

  296. Mary Rose Says:
    November 11th, 2006 at 11:12 pm

    seriously true… i agree.

  297. kryptonite Says:
    November 12th, 2006 at 8:21 am

    we wouldnt know to whom we would fall..It is best to play it safely. Were not only meant to be argumentative about the imposed issue but i guess giving a solution is the greatest contribution we can give in participating in this blog. have a wonderful day to all. Peace!!

  298. Jaypee Says:
    November 12th, 2006 at 9:49 pm

    Having HR and Hiring manager sit in on the interview? It’s not all as its hyped up to be.

    In fact, if you as the applicant need the HR and Hiring manager to be in the same room to make an objective assessment, that’s a definite red flag for you.

    Any Hiring manager worth his salt knows he does not need to be smarter than his subordinates, he just needs to know how to properly harness their skills.

  299. mimi Says:
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    Let me be the devil’s advocate here. Why in the world did our parents/teachers teach us “how to climb the corporate ladder?” instead of “how to own it?”. In the latter’s case, that question would be reversed.

  300. curt Says:
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    How can u own a corporation? are u supposed to be a part owner that is why they called it “corporation”?

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